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K-State Football

K-State has promoted Tom Hayes to defensive coordinator. Mike Cox, who was part of Washington's debacle of a defensive effort against Baylor in the Alamo Bowl, will be hired as a linebackers coach.

K-State Women's Basketball

Texas A&M got revenge and then some for K-State's upset win in Manhattan earlier this year. The Aggies beat K-State by 31 in College Station last night.

#RonP4Jags

The Jacksonville Jaguars hired Ron Prince as an assistant line coach.

Big 12 Basketball

KU overwhelmed Baylor with a 37-7 run that spanned the middle 20 minutes of the game and rolled to a 68-54 win over the Bears in Waco.

College Football Playoff

SB Nation's Jason Kirk takes a look at the Big 10's four-team playoff proposal and concludes that it's good for everybody.

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Either KU is that good or Baylor played that bad.

That was not a good stretch of play by Baylor.

B12 just isn't that good this year

I don’t think any of the Teams are that good. I’m thinking we get eaten alive in the Tourney and would be surprised to see any of the B12 Teams in the Elite 8 or Final 4 this year.

That's just it....on any given night the league can look really bad

but then the next night look to have final four potential. Every team has shown great inconsistency. KU not so much in league and Missouri really only at Kstate and Okie St, but I wouldn’t be surprised if no teams go far or if two or three go deep in the tourney.

Really I think the league is better than most think.

Look at the Big 12 record vs. non-conference..I think we will be pleasantly surprised come Elite 8.

I agree - parody across the league but still a tough place to play.
Hate to be a spelling nazi

but in this case it really does make a difference, because I think an argument could be made for either this year.

Do you mean
parity: the quality or state of being equal or equivalent

or

parody: a feeble or ridiculous imitation

"parody: a feeble or ridiculous imitation" - maybe he meant this guy's feeble imitation of a competent basketball coach?

I don’t know who’s the worst offender at getting the least out of his team’s talent, Drew, Barnes, or Brown.

Texas wins the prize, I think

because they have the “Power Pair” in Barnes and Brown.

Just think of how dominating they actually COULD be with all that money and recruiting prowess if their coaches didn’t coach them down so much.

Seriously though

Give Bill Snyder the kind of money, exposure, and facilities that Mack Brown has and we are looking at multiple national titles during his tenure here…

I believe that would be the case as well.
4 game play off still has the same issues as the current BCS

Where it is a matter of perception whether a team is good enough to get into the playoff. And as has been pointed out by JonFMorse, most of the voters are not to be trusted with votes.

It should be the conference champs playing with lower ranked ones on the road and upper 5 with byes for the first game. You don’t win your conference, then you get to go to a bowl.

Other than that I have no problem with the idea advanced by the B1G.

Anyone who was involved with the Defenses in that Baylor/Huskies game should have a 2 year ban from working at the

NCAA level.

I'm holding on to the belief that those circumstances were completely out of his control,

and that the only reasonable course of action was to execure every other defensive coach, bury them and blitz 11 players on every down.

I have a different view of the way we get to a playoff

I have a completely different view that I’ve not heard from anyone before. Maybe someone else has had the idea but I haven’t heard it (maybe because its a terrible idea). Take away one or two non-conference ‘preseason’ games. Do we really need 4 or 5 of these every year? One or two should be plenty. What do we do with those extra two games you ask? Great question, happy to fill you in.

They now go to the end of the season as TBA games. For conferences with a conference championship, these are now played at the Home field of the top ranked Team. Same record would be chosen by #points scored minus points allowed or better yet… flip a coin boys or play a game of knock-out (this still a work in progress). For conferences without a championship game we already know who the champ is. Enough of this ‘sharing the title’ crap. That’s why they did away with Ties in the early 90’s and put in the OT rules. Once the conf. champ has been decided, that Team plays @ or Home vs another conference champ. Those games will be decided by the current ranking system 1 vs 2, 3 vs 4 and so forth. Now, you have a true championship game.

What we end up with is the current bowl system then being slotted for the winners of each of the contests to play one another thus reaching a true playoff. Using this method would generate more revenue for the schools by creating more exciting match-ups on the home field.

Pick this apart, tell me why its a bad idea. Not thinking this would ever happen but what’s the harm in offering up ideas?

I cannot believe these rumors keep cropping up

but some blogger just doesn’t want this to go away. I know Pan believes an exodus of several ACC members to the Big-12 – led by Clemson and Florida State – is a (albeit marginal) possibility, but I remain highly skeptical. Particularly in the case of Clemson, which has been in the ACC forever. FSU would be such an outlier that I don’t see that happening, either. Not unless Miami comes along as a travel partner and that ain’t happening. If the Big-12 decides to expand again Louisville seems likely to be the first candidate to get a call. I do figure the conference eventually goes back to (at least) 12, but as nice as adding Clemson and FSU – or Maryland, Pitt, ‘Cuse, etc – would be, I don’t see it happening.

I tend to agree with you on this.

As much as I’d like it to happen. I just don’t see it right now.

Yet, I do hear some grumblings from some interesting places (plural) that the ACC is on the verge of collapse.

If WVU can do it, FlaState can too.
It's interesting that you say that
I do hear some grumblings from some interesting places (plural) that the ACC is on the verge of collapse.

I’m sure there is talk out there and I trust you and the veracity of your sources, but at the same time the ACC just renegotiated a new TV deal, brought in two new members, and upped the exit fees in a (symbolic perhaps?) show of unity. Makes me think this is more rumor for rumors sake than anything else.

I'll tell you why it actually does make some sense.

Because, as you mentioned, the ACC just re-worked their TV deal and brought in two new members, giving each school in the conference a cut of about… $15 million per school.

The Big 12 already pays that, and still has to re-work our Tier 1 contract in a few years. Estimates are about $35 million per school once that gets re-worked, if we can add those ACC teams.

Clemson and FSU already feel like the spending by SEC schools is leaving them behind, so they are looking for a conference where they can get more money. They know that an SEC offer is highly unlikely, so they are looking for the next best thing. With WVU in the conference, we can easily set up an “East” division, or even pods, to minimize travel concerns.

I do agree with you that I still think this is long-shot to happen. However, I think there is definitely a certain amount of sense to this possible decision, at least when compared to how all the other schools have been making their decisions during this “realignment” we have been suffering through.

I personally would prefer to go back to having Nebraska and CU in the conference, and everything just stay the same. I’m still not entirely sure how all this realignment is supposed to make everyone more money. But then again I’m just some schmuck, not an AD/Commissioner.

^This

Even with the new members, the ACC couldn’t pull the big numbers they need to be competitive with the SEC, B12, B1G and PAC, so the big football schools from the ACC are looking for an exit.

Like I siad, I’ve only heard grumblings, nothing like the guy who wrote the article mentioned. Though if my options were Louie and BYU v. FSU and Clem, that would be an easy choice. Also, if the ACC were to collapse that would increase our chances of bringing in ND from 3% to 30%.

I also suspect, as we have discussed

that if FSU and Clemson want out, look for Pitt to back out and also run to the Big 12. I would not be opposed to adding Lville, Pitt, FSU, and Clemson to get to 14.
I don’t know if it would be wise to be the first conference to 16, but at this point I would much rather be bold and daring than sit back and watch former (and historical) members leave.

I, too, would like to add Lville, Pitt, FSU and Clemson

I just see it as a long-shot at the moment. Frustration between the basketball-first and football-first schools within the ACC – and fear of SEC encroachment – I’m sure certainly exists within the ACC. But whether that would prompt FSU and Clemson to seek an exit in order to go to a conference that would largely have a heartland footprint remains questionable. But with that said, strange things happen in this college realignment game. I would like to see the Big-12 be really aggressive, and hopefully there is truth in that the conference reached out to these schools.

I see a Pitt defection much more likely

than FSU or Clemson. Add in Louisville and you have a Midwest corridor that helps WVU and offsets the loss of MU

As always, with everything, just follow the money...it has a story to tell.
Unfortunately, this is true more often than not.
Ask the Deathstar and FOX.
auto-rec for deathstar - makes me laugh every time for some reason
Anything is possible...never say never.

We have come to the time in which all is possible and all is being looked at wholeheartedly. I do not think this is the last we hear of this.

Is it just me or do women's games either end very close or by 30+ points?
It sure seems that way.
It's the same way in high school.

Our girls team is in a district with the best team in the state, while they (our girls) are a middle of the pack-type of team. The CLOSEST game the top team in our girls’ district played in district this year was around 30 points or so. They beat our girls 60-22. Meanwhile, our girls have played the other mid-pack teams in district all to right around 1-4 point games. And they beat the bottom two teams in district by 40+ points. There just doesn’t seem to be any “happy medium” games, where one team wins by 10-15 points.

FWIW

I was really pulling for Ron to get the Oregon job.

cfn.scout's preview of the Big 12, including our Cats

http://cfn.scout.com/2/1149741.html – Their preseason rankings has the Cats below Texas and OSU. I like the Cats to beat both of those teams at home this year and finish at least tied with one of them and ahead of the other, if not ahead of both. WVU doesn’t scare me, but I’d much rather play @ TCU this season than @ WVU. I don’t see the Cats winning the league in 2012 (Snyder can’t beat Big Game Boob aside from one very special miracle, and certainly not in Norman), but 2nd is certainly possible.

http://cfn.scout.com/2/1157066.html – Why to be excited? Optimus Klein and Arthur Brown are back as experienced seniors, along with Little Lockett (Please Lord, take care of him), Harper, Malone, Chapman, Hubert, Finney… What’s not to like?

http://cfn.scout.com/2/1157068.html – What needs work? I agree, the Cats offense MUST find someone to help Optimus Klein. My ideal would be a 1100 yard RB. A pass-rush would be great too.

http://cfn.scout.com/2/1157067.html – Why to be grouchy? Discussions in the last couple of weeks have put my mind at ease about the losses on the O-line, but Kibble, Emmanuel, and Rat must be replaced.

A little harsh dropping us to 6th but at least we are the underdog

I love the way they call our O-line a “patchwork.” Sounds like we will just be throwing any Tom, Dick or Harry out there.

Yeah, agreeded

as we have discussed, I expect the O-Line to show marked improvement over last year, even with losing Aufner (only loss that actually stings)

To put your mind at ease on the Defense

lets take a look at what is returning, plus what is getting added in:

D-Line — There are three returning starters on the D-Line (Adam Davis, Meshack Williams, Vai Lutui), or at least defacto starters (Davis and Volker switched around). Also returning is pass-rush specialist Ryan Mueller (Fr., who played a lot on third-downs). So we have 4 guys with solid game experience. Sweet. Plus there is a bevy of depth and potential returning to fight for jobs next year. Laton Dowling, Ian Seau, Marquel Bryant, & Taylor Godinet will all compete with Williams and Davis for sports on the outside; and Jordan Allred, Daryl Blackmon, Xavier Gates, and John Sua will all look to replace Kibble & Guidry and compete with Lutui. Thats a lot of competition, and several of those guys managed to get a redshirt when we really thought they could have pushed for time in their first year. Scary Sweet. Adding to that mix is 6 (or 7 if Cody Seiwert plays DE) new guys, including 2 greyshirts and 1 JUCO guy who are already on campus. Holy cow thats a lot! …..Summary: I think the D-Line will be just fine, if not even better than last year.

Linebacker — Depth here is actually more of a concern thanks to our recently departed DC. Arthur and Tre return to anchor, but looking at the roster no name really jumps out. Cody Marley will probably be AB’s chief backup, Jarrell Childs and Blake Slaughter haven’t been able to push for consistent minutes, and there is a buttload of walk-ons and dudes I only know because they lived on my wife’s floor in Haymaker. I have heard good things about Tate Snyder though, like he is actually pretty good at LB and not just holding a scholly cuz his dad is a coach. Even at that I expect him to be Tre’s backup. That leaves the “new” guys. Justin Tuggle has the pedigree and the size/speed/athleticism combo Synder can usually only dream of for a LB. I honestly expect him to start in Manny’s role, though we may see more Tre on 3rd downs than last year. The other new guy is Mike Moore. We talked about him last year, and thought he could compete early, but for whatever reason took a greyshirt and is now here to compete in spring practices. I am a firm believer that, in Snyder’s system, the bowl and spring practices are more important than anything else. While I don’t expect Moore to start, I bet we will see him play some quality minutes backing up Tre or Justin. I don’t expect Will Davis to play this year, look for him to redshirt then take over AB’s spot the next year. …….Summary: The LB corps is very thin right now, with a lot of X-Factors.

D-Backs - Another sport where there are three returning starters or guys who played significant minutes (Ty Zimmerman, Nigel Malone, Allan Chapman). The loss of The Rat stings more than the loss of Hartman, as Rat was fast and strong, could tackle, and was our second best cover corner (and Safety) last year. The problem here is depth. We are again presented with a bunch of dudes you will probably never see on the field and will probably never hear of. Go figure. Two names to watch out for though are Joseph Bonugli and Jarard Milo. Milo had great promise coming out of HS, but we haven’t seen that translate yet (though he did spend two years in JUCO first), Bonugli redshirted last year and never saw the field this year (largely because I suspect he was Ty’s chief backup, and that dude never left the game). There is some hope coming in though. Kent Ganious is the big name, and will look to step into Hartman’s role. However, he won’t be here until this summer, so he will have to fight hard with Morgan Burns. While he was recruited as “Athlete,” I know guys who saw him play (plus with what the scouting report tells us) and they tell me if he’s not a safety, or at least nickle corner, they would be greatly surprised. Burns, another greyshirt, will be here this spring, so IMO it’s his job to lose. Dante Barnett is another greyshirt “athlete” who I expect to play on D. He’s small, so I expect him to backup Malone and Chapman on the corner. Donnie Starks was a late-comer to this year’s class, I expect him to redshirt this season. Also, don’t discount the possibility that Deante Burton might switch over from WR. I would assume that’s his preferred position, but I know he was also 6A All-State as DB (though I can’t find any stats for him on defense :( ). …….Summary: Some good returning starters, but depth here is a big issue just like at LB.

Hopefully Hayes can work some magic on this D. I have absolutely no faith in Mike Cox to coach up his unit, but that is offset by complete faith in Mo Latimore and Joe Bob to give us something special on the D-Line. Hopefully the front-four can generate enough of a pass rush to help out the back 7, but it’s going to be tough. Expect Snyder to play more ball-control offense to keep that D off the field where it can’t give up any yards…

Sorry, don't know how that strike-through happened...
If anyone cares to, they can dig it up

But just before the season (or maybe after the first or second game( I went on a tirade suggested that while 2011 looked like it could be ok, Snyder was clearly stacking up for a 2012 team. If you look at the greyshirts, redshirts and who is coming in (especially from JuCo) if this team jells at all, it will be pretty darn good. I firmly believe (because I’ve heard it straight from the mouth of KSU football employees) that Snyder could have played some of the redshirts last year but wasn’t going to lift the redshirt unless he absolutely had to. He did something similar back in the early 90’s to load up for 93(? Or there about, have to look). Same can be said about greyshirts, let’s all remember Zim was a greyshirt. And yes, anyone who has ever Snyder the third hit, would know he’s on scholarship for a reason.

I will admit at the time I was predicting Tuggle or Sams as QB1, and that in 2012 we could have 10 wins. Who could have imagined at that point of the season we would have seen Klein do what he did or that we would have won more than 6 or 7?

This could be one of Snyder’s best teams next year if we can just stay healthy and get the expected production out of the “new” guys.

Agreed, so much

The depth returning in many areas is just amazing. the 2012 edition will be loaded with talent, and upperclassmen. 2013 could be a bit of a let down, but after a Cotton Bowl run (and with a strong showing this year), I expect more talent to come in next year.

And from what I hear

Tate is a lot like Mark Simoneau. He is really good at football, but not exactly the brightest kid in the world.

Perfect for a non-MLB. Let him loose to nail people.
I'm already purchasing my MNC gear...

lol (denotes playful over-the-top expectations)

Why do you guys keep using MNC?

what does the “M” stand for? Did I miss something?

Mythical
When did you guys start that?

I mean, I’ve seen it for a while, but it has always bugged me

I don't know who started it, been around way longer than I've been on this site.

And I’m sure it was started somewhere else on the internet, not here.

The first time I saw it, I Googled it, found the answer (actually, funnily enough, it was on a EDSBS page) and loved it so much I quickly adopted it.

Ah

well I think its silly…so there :-P

Well, I think Sousaphones are silly, so, right back at ya'.
less silly than

trumpets clarinets…

And I'll have to drop it as soon as we move to a playoff, since it will no longer be mythical at that point.
And, FWIW, I have remembered that post all year long.

And have been positively salivating for this next year.

Which kind of upsets me, because I know my chances of disappointed expectations are far greater now than if I had not read that post.

Thanks.

Yes, I also remember talking about it

my expectations were that a 10+ win season wouldn’t happen till next year…boy were we pleasantly surprised

Disapointment = Expectations - Reality

Control what you can in that equation to be happy.

What happens when Reality is so bad that is becomes a negative number?

I guess you start feeling surprise.

You finally fire Ron Prince?
Thank you JT

I appreciate the run through. It’s long enough and good enough I think you should save it and repost it after the spring game and before games start again in September, given what we will learn about the team between now and then.

I’m not actually worried about the D as a whole (even the new LB coach doesn’t bother me at all), but just like with the 3 new starters on the O-line, losing the defensive starters is just a talking point for people who don’t follow as closely as we do.

We shouldn't be any lower than 3ed, with ou at 1 and WV at 2

Not that I don’t think that we’ll beat both, but OU is OU and WV finished the season scoring 70 points.

AGAINST CLEMSON
I believe this is where I say...

FUCK CLEMSON.

amiright?

I have no ill will towards Clemson

nor really any school not named KU or OU

And Wisconsin Baksetball

I really hate those pasty dudes…

It's an ESBS meme.

Anon, jonfmorse, back me up on this.

*EDSBS

(Every Day Should Be Saturday)

Eh, I maintain my stance either way
Belgium Clemson meme

It started as a throw away line for one of the writers at EDSBS because if you pick Clemson to win, they don’t cover the point spread. If you pick Clemson to lose then they cover the point spread. Or they win if you pick them to lose or vice versa.

It has nothing to do with Clemson per se.

Behind UT you say? Will they ever learn?
An email from Coach Martin

Dear K-State Students,

I reach out to you asking for your help. Five years ago I was afforded the incredible opportunity of becoming the head basketball coach at our great University. This was a lifelong dream of mine. I have worked as hard as I can to bring back the greatness of K-State Basketball.

None of us are perfect. I continue to work at correcting the mistakes I have made. Moreover, I have done things I wish I could take back. However, in life you can’t go backwards but you can always get better from the lessons. One thing that I have worked hard at improving is the language that I use at games and eliminating these moments. I cannot allow my competitiveness to blind me from the fact that I represent you, the great students of a university of higher education. As a father, and an educator, there is no place for this at any event in which I am representing K-State.

This is why I am reaching out to you. I have become aware that recently we have had some fan chants at Bramlage that use profanity. We ARE better than that. We have more class than that. As I work at completely eliminating profanity from my actions, I ask you to help me by not using chants that contain profanity. There is no place in education, or representing K-State, for any of us to use profanity.

As we head into the stretch run of the season, I ask the greatest fan base in college basketball to please help me. I need your help to bring K-State Basketball back to championships, and I also need your help as we represent K-State with the class this University deserves.

Love you all,

Coach Martin

Did they finally catch on most people don't say "K-S-U" during Sandstorm?
I have no idea what they say.

I think the students should chant “The ref beats his wife” when a bad call is made but it has never caught on.

I try to, then laugh at myself because I'm the only one

pretty much the easiest thing heard is “F*** KU!” no matter who we are playing. I think it’s pretty dumb, but try getting that through to a bunch of students…

like shouting

“CHIEEEEFS” at the end of the national anthem.

Good grief that is stupid.

I would not compare to the two

Saying “Home of the Chiefs” is an insult to America, saying “F*** KU” even if it isn’t relevant to the game at hand feels good. Still yes, it is dumb.

Exactly, who cares about insulting KU? Certainly not I.

Speaking of KU hate, a nice little story about a young girl who won’t let those mean Jayhawk teachers bully her into coloring a mythical bird during Kansas week.

http://bugbytesdotnet.wordpress.com/2012/01/28/emma-got-in-trouble-at-school/

I resembled that in my youth

Very much so.

Thats awesome.

Its good to see that kid stand up for something. When I was in kindergarden I made sure I didn’t do anything to get my nap, juice and cookies taken away, even if it meant that i had to turn a stupid jayhawk into a big purple blob.

Just color the Jayhawk...

then fill it full of purple arrows…classic.

Would have had my child apologize for being rude,

but would not have made her color the Jayhawk, and if the teacher didn’t like it, we would have had a chat with the principal.

Yeah, seriously, that teacher was out of line.

How can you not give the kids an option? There is nothing more “Kansan” about KU compared to KSU.

And then the next day forcing the kids to color a whole book of Jayhawks? That’s cruel and unusual punishment.

Yeah.

Especially when she made a big deal of it, when the kid told her she didn’t want to do it.

What about Shockers

or Gorillas, or Tigers, or Hornets???

All state schools…

I draw a line at Shockers...

Simply no. But Gorillas, Tigers, and Hornets. Fine.

Why you be hatin', bro??
We've been through this before

he seems to have an irrational (as far as I can tell anyway) hate for the Shockers. I say it is irrational because the Shockers don’t compete with us in anything these days. I would rather see WSU win than any of the other MVC schools. Just like I was glad to see Pitt St win the Div 2 NCAA Championship.

KU is really the only school worth hatin’ on in this state (IMO).

Baseball....

We split the 2 game series last year! I want a clean sweep this year.

oh good grief.

a sweep would be nice, but a split series is nothing compared to the KU fueled hate

I know, I am just kidding.

Hating KU is so much easier. I usually cheer for Wichita State in all sports.

Agreed
KU is really the only school worth hatin’ on in this state (IMO).
Not totally irrational

My mom hated the Shockers when she played volleyball because they were dirty cheaters and K-State got homered by the refs anytime they played in Wichita. I think passing down old hatreds is a fine tradition, what if parents didn’t pass down KU hatred then we’d see more K-State fans that liked the Jayhawks. And we CAN’T have that.

You told me you hated shockers

because of that girl from Hays you dated.

/hehehe

Ok that's another reason right there

The girl from *Wichita. She’s a menace to my love life whenever it goes other directions. I’m an idiot in that regard though.

Go Creighton!
The follow up is even better!

Read this to be damn proud of our great university!

I almost choked up...

wish it was my kid making me K-State proud.

My kids are 5, 3, and 1.

They think a jayhawk is a parrot. Makes me a proud Papa every time they say that. I’m sure as heck not going to correct them!

This is awesome.

One of my high school classmates, who also happens to sit next to my parents at BSFS, posted a similar picture on facebook of his son holding a construction paper Jayhawk in front of the fireplace where he was going to properly dispose of it. I totally forgot that I had to do something similar around Kansas Day when I was in elementary school.

Emma sounds adorable though!

Don't know if anyone else noticed this

but at the top of the blog entry, there was a twitter feed, and it said that Emma is going to be “Fan of the Game” on Monday night. How awesome!

Yeah, that's in the second posted story

and I saw it on twitter yesterday

and NOW I see the second posted story. (I'm catching up as my home computer essentially bit the dust last night).
Ah.

What’s it doing? I could maybe help if you had a basic idea of the problem…

It took about an hour to shut down and restart last night.

And I seem to have lost my wireless capabilities. The little network icon in the task bar has completely disappeared.

If you would be willing to look at it I would appreciate it. Computers is one thing I am not ashamed to admit my ignorance.

you should know how to find my email address, as you know where I work
sounds like maybe a virus problem

how old is it?

Uh-oh...here we go again

brace yourself Captain Kirk – she’s going to get a bit bumpy.

I know

I thought of that when I posted it. But since the last conversation I have been to 3 or 4 more games (however many men’s games have taken place since then), and I cringe every time I hear it.

As i said the last go-round, it would still be disrespectful if the student section yelled “CATS!” at the end, but I would at least understand why they say it. It wouldn’t upset me nearly as much as “CHIEEEFS”, well, because as I have stated many times before, that’s just plain dumb when it is a basketball game not involving a team named the Chiefs.

I don't have strong feelings either way, but would prefer our chants to be original as well as entertaining.
IMHO

The Chiefs thing, outside of Arrowhead (or anywhere else that uses the Chiefs monkier) is neither original nor entertaining

It fills me with righteous anger every time I hear it.

So. Damn. Stupid.

yeah, I think we're all on the same page

or at least in the same postal code, on this issue.

“CHIEEEFS” at BSFS or OOD is really dumb

And as I mentioned previously

when I was a student, I know there was a large contingent who DID yell “CATS!” (I was one of them). So, I guess I’m really just baffled as to how it changed from “CATS” to “CHIEEEFS”. It’s as if these people seem to think the KC Chiefs are the first group to ever think of doing this. I really am at a loss for words.

And while this is TOTALLY not the same thing, I suppose I can understand how some people might get offended by EMAW. No wait, I can’t, because it has ALWAYS been EMAW, it wasn’t something else that someone bastardized by substituting their own thing in there because they thought it was cool…I don’t know, like EPAW (just pulling something totally random out of the air)

Really Frank?

Really?

My favorite suggestion so far is a swear jar next to his water on the announcers table.

That should be green as well...

I would use one of those large water cooler jugs and have the proceeds donated to the Ahern Fund. I’m sure somebody has the graphic expertise to put a image of Frank’s face on it with his mouth blurred out and the necessary cartoon bubble above his head (&%$#@’n Swear Jar)

I like the visual image of this

especially the official title of the jar as “&%$#@’n Swear Jar”

:)

This of the Deathstar coverage of Frank dropping in $20 worth of ones

before a time out and adding two more after.

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