K-State Basketball
K-State played its best game of the season in a 78-68 win over No. 3 Missouri in Columbia. Rodney McGruder led the way with 24 points, but among the games played by Angel Rodriguez, Thomas Gipson, Jamar Samuels and Jordan Henriquez, it's hard to set one above the other.
You guys called it in the open thread. We all knew a run by Mizzou was coming at some point in the second half. But K-State answered big shots by the Tigers time and again to prevent a backbreaking, crowd-exciting run.
Improves NCAA chances? We're in now, unless we manage to lose our last three and the first game of the Big 12 tournament. In any event, with the last two wins, K-State now has a chance to play its way out of the 8-9 matchup and give itself a decent chance to make the second weekend.
Jordan Henriquez is now the career blocks leader at K-State. For a kid who's been questioned so often, that has to be a good feeling.
K-State's length and physicality bothered Missouri, again. The bottom line is that basketball is about matchups, and K-State is a bad matchup for Mizzou.
K-State Football
B.J. Finney makes Andy Staples all-star team for recruits who were rated two stars or lower.
Land Thieves
Oklahoma's Jay Norvell may have committed a recruiting violation by offering a recruit a scholarship via Twitter.
Poor Aggy
Let's see. Should Texas A&M allow a group of attractive women to patrol the sidelines of Kyle Field during A&M football games and, when music is played, dance as a group? Nah, that would take away from the game-day atmosphere. I mean, I get it, why would you want to showcase this group more often than necessary (probably safe for work, but you're warned that it is a photo of TAMU's dance team in uniform).
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You missed a Norvell tweet
TWO TOPICAL REFERENCES. SHUT IT DOWN.
RPT - February 22, 2012
Heh heh. Rec.
Panjandrum - February 22, 2012
Question...
Why do we have a tournament in B-Ball if there is a regular season champion or co-champion?
Does anyone else see it odd? Co-champions in any sport at the collegiate level is crap.
BeYard2 - February 22, 2012
I should add
I am aware that if a team not likely NCAA tourney bound wins it gets an automatic bid.
BeYard2 - February 22, 2012
I think the conference tourney
Is a bigger deal for some of the mid-major conferences where the auto-bid is possibly the only bid or 2 up for grabs. Gives some of those team a realistic second chance of the regular season didn’t go so well. It could also work similarly with the Big 12 I suppose but generally the higher seeds dominate that one
Kohawk84 - February 22, 2012 via iPhone app
Being a North Dakota State fan
I really don’t like the system where the tournament champion gets the auto bid in a one bid league like the Summit. A team can get hot or lucky at the tournament leap frogging a team that performed better during the 18 conference games.
margibso - February 22, 2012
It's up to the conference who gets the automatic bid
So the Summit league could decide to reward their regular season champion if they wanted to. Probably most don’t to try and get some ESPN coverage of their tournaments.
smitty3268 - February 22, 2012
This is not true
unless you are in the Ivy League, you must win the conference tournament to receive your conference’s automatic bid.
NCAA.com’s Selection U page
jtarkman - February 22, 2012
For more
The Wikipedia page on tournament selection
and an NBC sports article on the subject
jtarkman - February 22, 2012
See, when i read those links i don't think it says anywhere that the champ must be from the tournament
I think they are just repeating the fact that the 30 conferences with tournaments all use them to decide who their auto-bid goes to, not that they have to do it that way.
But admittedly, I don’t have any links showing that either, so maybe you are right.
smitty3268 - February 22, 2012
Only the Ivy League doesn't
EMAW 4 Ever (iphone) - February 22, 2012 via iPhone app
The NBC article discusses why the auto-bid should go
to the regular season champ instead of the tourney champ, implying that there is no choice, only the tourney champ gets the auto-bid. The conference, it would seem, would actually be better off by sending its strongest team over the course of the season, rather than the one who managed to pull off the upset in the champ game, the regular season champ being more likely to win more games in the Dance. You’d think, if there was an option, that you wouldn’t have this argument, nor even a conference tournament.
jtarkman - February 22, 2012
Also, from the NCAA.com page
Saying 30 “will win” says to me that they have to win the tourney, the regular season title does not count.
jtarkman - February 22, 2012
Official ruling from the
NCAA ByLaws
From 31.3.4.1
Therefore, if you hold a conference tournament then the winner of the tournament is your conference champion and automatic qualifier, but if you don’t (like the Ivy League) then your regular season champ is your automatic qualifier.
jtarkman - February 22, 2012
Okay, I guess I grabbed the old one first
here is the link to the 11-12 ByLaws. The rule is still under 31.3.4.1 (a).
jtarkman - February 22, 2012
The way I read it, it still doesn't say the auto bid
MUST be the conference tournament champion.
It says the auto-bid can be determined by either method, as indicated at the time of application.
“at the time of application”…application to what? The NCAA? Do conferences have to apply each year?
Seems to me that the Big 12 could certainly CHOOSE to have the auto-bid go to the regular season champion if they wanted to and could still hold a conference tournament (for what purpose, I don’t know).
Doesn’t matter if you are dealing with rules to a game, conference, building code, tax code, legal code, etc., there is always room for interpretation. I think the wording of this rule is definitely open to interpretation, and could be successfully lawyered by someone who felt it was worth his/her time to do so.
Jeremy Sharp - February 22, 2012
Right
and my interpretation, as supported by other evidence, is that all of the conferences, besides the Ivy League, have decided that they want their tournament champion to receive the autobid. I would also assume that it cannot be changed during the year.
Not saying its right, but the evidence I have supports that conclusion
jtarkman - February 22, 2012
I don't think it can be changed during the year...
unless something catastrophic would happen (like say a tornado comes thru downtown Atlanta and rips a hole in the Georgia Dome where the SEC championship tournament is taking place, and they decide to cancel the tournament).
/halfofthatscenarioisactuallyahistoricalevent
Jeremy Sharp - February 22, 2012
I remember that
and yeah, thats covered in that section too, right after the part I bolded
jtarkman - February 22, 2012
The argument that Jeremy was making boils down to this:
Any conference CAN have their regular season champ get the auto-bid.
However, they need to determine this “at the time of application”, which is either when thy applied to be members of the NCAA (don’t think this is likely), or when they applied to participate in the tournament back when it first started (don’t think this is it either), or when the conference updates it’s laws and regulations and submits the new laws to the NCAA, to be applied in the next competition year.
So, a conference could change who gets to go, but they obviously could not do it mid-season, and I don’t think anybody was advocating that.
Although, there may be another rule somewhere that you are only allowed to have a conference tourney if the tourney winner gets the auto-bid, similar to football rules which qualify the number of members you have to have before you can have a championship game. Don’t really care enough to look it up, though.
ChrisP Wildcat - February 23, 2012
Guess I should keep reading...
ChrisP Wildcat - February 23, 2012
My guess would be in increases the opportunity for more teams from the league to get it.
mac attack ict - February 23, 2012
Also. almost all the regular season champs
Get an auto bid to the NIT. Winning the conference tournament is how many of them lock up a bid to the NCAA.
Kohawk84 - February 22, 2012 via iPhone app
From what I know of the rules regarding the NCAA Tournament
for a team to receive it’s conference’s auto-bid, it must win the conference tournament (except the Ivy League, which does not hold a tourney).
Since the NCAA bought the NIT a few years ago, a school that wins it’s conference’s regular season title gets an auto-bid to the NIT but must still win its conference tourney to earn the auto-bid to the NCAA tourney (again, except the Ivy League).
If you are in a major conference, winning your conference in the regular season means that you have earned your spot in the NCAA tourney, even without winning your conference tourney (obviously), but a smaller conference team (say, Murray State) must win its conference tournament to guarantee it’s place in the Big Dance. This also means that a team like Texas Tech could magically get hot, win the conference tourney, and get into the NCAA tourney with a losing record.
jtarkman - February 22, 2012
any conference can choose not to have an end of the year tournament and send their regular season champion.
It’s just that all but the ivy league choose to have the tournament. In fact you can still have the tournament and just award the auto bid to the regular season champion (as long as this was decided at the beginning of the season). Of course this makes the tournament meaning less.
Personally I like the WAC method for one bid conferences. Make the bracket progressive by giving the top 2 teams double byes.
margibso - February 22, 2012
yeah, I laid all that out above
complete with links to the NCAA bylaws
jtarkman - February 22, 2012
not exactly
margibso said what I alluded to above…a conference (Big12) can decide how they want to elect the auto-bid. The two methods are: 1) regular season champion or 2) tournament champion.
The conference can choose EITHER method, they just have to state which method they are using on an annual basis.
The conference can CHOOSE option 1 to determine the auto-bid, and then still hold a tournament, but for what purpose? The tournament allows for additional games, additional TV time, and most importantly, additional money for the conference. If you’re going to have a tournament, it is probably a good idea for it to actually mean something (like an auto-bid).
Jeremy Sharp - February 22, 2012
The arguements above were about selecting either or
as in, when it comes down to the end of the season the conference cant just pick one. They would have had to choose which one they wanted before the season started or, more likely, as a part of the conference by-laws.
And I was agreeing with margibso, just letting him know I have placed the empirical evidence above.
You seem to be trying to argue against me when we are actually trying to say the same thing in different language. The way the rules play out, you must chose one or the other before any of the games are played. The conferences have decided in favor of tournaments. And I agree, its probably all about money, tv, and extra games/practices just like the bowls are for football
jtarkman - February 22, 2012
I don't think we are saying the same thing.
It’s semantics at this point, and I’m not trying to be argumentative just to be argumentative.
I interpreted your argument thusly:
Conference can choose how to determine auto-bid, either reg season or tournament. But, IF they have a tournament, they MUST send the tournament winner.
I say they can choose to send regular season winner, and STILL have a tournament if they want to. They just have to state this is what they are doing prior to the season.
I know the evidence supports the idea that “if you have a tournament then you send the tournament winner”, but I don’t think the rules actually say that. As I said, the tournament is good for the conference for several reasons, and if you are going to have one, then it should be worth something (otherwise some teams and/or players might not participate at all for fear of an injury, and then what is the point REALLY?).
Sorry I carried on about this as long as I did. I just realized I kinda pulled a douche move by arguing about something that really doesn’t matter to me either way.
Jeremy Sharp - February 22, 2012
Okay, I get your beef now
and yes, I agree with this. I didn’t mean I thought it was a rule, but that it was the intent of the situation at hand. By choosing to have a tournament, the conference has decided that the tournament champion will represent the conference.
I apologize too, I guess I did not make myself clear enough on my actual viewpoint, thus necessitating an unnecessary argument.
/wecoolbro
jtarkman - February 22, 2012
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AmmoCat - February 22, 2012
question to you sir
are you in the military? What branch?
I was a 2311 USMC for 8 years, which as you may know is an ammo tech.
BeYard2 - February 22, 2012
I am an Air Force Colonel
27 years in Munitions and Aircraft Maintenance. Will be retiring 1 June.
AmmoCat - February 22, 2012
Woah hold on...
Can you make any other potential military members on this board salute you with your Officerness?
MeatGeek - February 22, 2012
No
But I now demand it happen.
We need to come up with a good salute word…salute doesn’t cut it…heil, well… best find something else.
BlackCats - February 22, 2012
ALL HAIL AMMOCAT!!!!
mac attack ict - February 22, 2012
ALL HAIL COLONEL AMMOCAT!
MeatGeek - February 22, 2012
GASP
This means we can have Col. Ammocat’s secret recipe and “Kansas Fried Chicken”, right? Right!?
MeatGeek - February 22, 2012
I refuse to eat mutant chicken fried or otherwise.
Anon_the_younger - February 22, 2012
Recipe
Step 1: Find mythical bird…
BlackCats - February 22, 2012
And a Hilburn to you Sir!
Catbacker98 - February 23, 2012
I try to avoid that...lol
AmmoCat - February 22, 2012
Oh come on...
We’re missing out on so many salute.gif’s now that I find this out.
MeatGeek - February 22, 2012
jtarkman - February 22, 2012
Rec'd for respect/badassery.
yeahboozin - February 22, 2012
About co-champions
Its just you and bob stoops in that boat.
EMAW 4 Ever (iphone) - February 22, 2012 via iPhone app
except that I bet Bob would change his tune
if he was the team that had been on the outside looking in and would be getting a “share” of the title.
“Hey guys, rules are rules…I don’t make them, but if that’s what they are, then that’s what I’m gonna go by.”
Jeremy Sharp - February 22, 2012
Exactly what I want to hear/read from JO
‘"He drove right into me," said Henriquez, who finished with 6 points, 4 rebounds and 4 blocks. "Sometimes I tell my guards, if you get beat off the dribble, try not to foul them too much. Just guide them right to the rim, and I’ll do my best to alter the shot or block it."’ – awesome. I think that suspension and Diaz’ really good performances have woken up JO. We’ll find out on Saturday.
What a fun win for the Cats.
Sean T - February 22, 2012
I was thinking that as well (about the suspension)
He seems to be re-invigorated about playing the way Frank wants.
Clearly Frank likes to have several bigs to rotate in throughout the game (and obviously our style of play lends itself to more foul calls).
Next year, we lose JamSam and VO, but can replace their minutes with Diaz and Upshaw. Add to that ZERO backcourt losses and the continuity this team is currently displaying can only grow.
xrayxtals - February 22, 2012
Don't forget Chetckavious (sp)
Panjandrum - February 22, 2012
Is he a guarantee to be playing next year? I thought he might get "grey-shirted"?
xrayxtals - February 22, 2012
The thought was he could get placed into a prep school for a year.
But there hasn’t been any indication that’s the case.
Seems like someone is getting Frank’d. Fortunately, Frank seems to love most of the guys on the squad. Seems like Watson or Lawrence will be the one to go. Highly doubt any of the rotation guys find themselves sent packing.
yeahboozin - February 22, 2012
"Highly doubt any of the rotation guys find themselves sent packing." Amen. I hate that we actually speculate about who's doing what and if they'll be Frank'd.
Sean T - February 22, 2012
Agreed
though I see the fewest guys leaving this year than in any years prior. I really see at most two guys leaving (Watson and Lawrence), but from what I’ve seen of the two guys, I actually think Watson has a better chance of sticking around than Lawrence does. Just a feeling I have
jtarkman - February 22, 2012
Every guy on this team seems very invested.
And they’re obviously buying into the coaching philosophy. Frank has said as much. He loves this team. But Frank is also a bottom line guy.
Of the two, I think Watson would be the one. He wasn’t properly prepared to play at the start of the season and we aren’t in need of another big next season.
yeahboozin - February 22, 2012
True
but Omari is way down the list, he usually comes in after the walk-ons. Watson has been injured, and I think it would be a giant dick move to force him to leave without giving him a realistic shot at playing.
My hope is that Chatkevicius goes to prep school next year and this isn’t a problem
jtarkman - February 22, 2012
And sheddding Omari would be less dickish?
He has nowhere else to go unless he’s going D-2
MeatGeek - February 22, 2012
Didnt mean that
and yes, that would also be true. But thats what Dom did, and he seems pretty happy.
But like I said, I hope it works out so there isnt a problem like this
jtarkman - February 22, 2012
Dom actually went to a school that was transitioning to D-1
He still had to burn a redshirt year. But yeah there’s options for Omari even instate ones.
But yeah I’d rather Chatkevicius go to prep school for a year to avoid any more negative press on running people off.
MeatGeek - February 22, 2012
semantics, it was still d-2 when he went there
/geez
jtarkman - February 22, 2012
Barely
They were in the transition period.
/technicalitiescount
MeatGeek - February 22, 2012
Dom had a pretty good game tonight against Indiana
With 21 points, he was a bright spot for them. I checked his season stats, and he’s doing pretty well. Averaging about 16/7, if I remember right.
AMS - February 22, 2012
go eat a pig
jtarkman - February 22, 2012
lol
/thatwasajoke
jtarkman - February 22, 2012
I think the turning point was when JO
got back into the starting line-up. Whether he outplayed big Gip or Martin threw him a bone on that one is unknown at this point. Either way genius move by Martin that seems to have clearly paid big dividends.
BeYard2 - February 22, 2012
Not sure where I read it, but
an article referred to JO not having fun there for a while – was getting down on himself resulting in poor play which made coach get on him. The break allowed him to focus on the gift of college basketball and one day at practice he just showed up smiling, having a blast, and dominating.
I like this story, even if it is my delusion since I cannot find the article now.
mac attack ict - February 22, 2012
I remember reading something along those lines as well.
BlackCats - February 22, 2012
Sorry...forgot that ALL MUST HAIL AMMOCAT!!!!!
mac attack ict - February 22, 2012
Consider me extremely impressed...
I didn’t leave your boys for dead or anything after last Monday’s loss, but they were squarely behind the eight ball. To circle the wagons and follow that up with wins at Baylor and Missouri is damned impressive.
hiphopopotamus - February 22, 2012
If there's any college team this season that can match those back-to-back wins ...
I’d be surprised. Two spectacular efforts.
Itchy n Scratchy - February 22, 2012
I left the Cats for dead after throwing away the UT game.
Shows what I know.
Sean T - February 22, 2012
After the Texas loss (and KU loss too I guess)
I actually told several people I would not be surprised if we won out the rest of the season.
I don’t use the Texas game as the basis for any of my projecting for how the team would finish the season, because, IMO, that was not a normal game. I’ve said it many times before on here that us losing the Texas game was more about how the officials called the second half than anything we did or did not do. And I also felt like we played a good game, with an inspired effort against KU.
And seeing as how we definitely seem to play up (or down) to the level of competition, we should be playing pretty well in these final games since we don’t have to face Tech, OU, or North Florida (I’m not including aTm, because while their record is not good, I still think they are a pretty decent team that has just fallen victim to the SEC tail-tuck…just like their football brethern).
Jeremy Sharp - February 22, 2012
Mike DiCorsi (sp?) was on 810 AM this morning
He said if KState wins their last 3 games they could expect a 7 seed. Is this crazy or am I for expecting upwards of a 4/5 if we win out?
xrayxtals - February 22, 2012
He's flat out wrong....If we win out I expect a 5
We would be 11-7 with a 7-6 top 50 rpi record. Last year we were 10-6 and got a 5 seed. I don’t think a 4 is out of the question if we went deep in the tourney. If we finish 10-8 I think we could still be a 7. Either way this year, no team stands out that we couldn’t play with. Give me a Duke or Syracuse second round.
mjk7166 - February 22, 2012
4 might be too lofty even if/when we win out
5 or 6 would be more practical since we lost to OU twice.
BeYard2 - February 22, 2012
True
I don’t think there’s any way those 2 losses don’t negatively affect our seeding.
Winning the conference tourney would be a good way to make up for them I suppose. After winning in Columbia last night I wouldn’t rule it out of the equation.
Kohawk84 - February 22, 2012 via iPhone app
We lost to CU twice last year and got the 5
The committee seems to really value play at the end of the season and finishing with two road top 10 wins and 5-0 would be huge.
mjk7166 - February 22, 2012
Hell man, we lost to CU THREE times and still got the 5.
Itchy n Scratchy - February 22, 2012
And that was with an early exit in the conference tourney ... to CU.
Itchy n Scratchy - February 22, 2012
CU was a bubble team last year
OU’s only bubble this year is if they will stay in D1.
feralfeline - February 22, 2012
This is very true.
I still don’t think just those 2 losses to OU are going to kill our seeding.
KSU has 3 HUGE wins (top 10 and 2 of them on the road) and a compliment of very solid ones. Not many teams are going to match that.
Itchy n Scratchy - February 22, 2012
Solid rec-worth post.
ALL HAIL AMMOCAT!!! (from a vet to an active duty soldier – even if it is the Air Force [sarcasm])
mac attack ict - February 22, 2012
I think if we win out, we're looking at a 6.
Play to the finals of the Big 12 tournament, and we’re looking at a five.
Win the whole thing, we’re looking at a 4.
Panjandrum - February 22, 2012
I think KSU can get a 5
but looking at history, I would rather have the 6. Lots of 12 seed upsets (and some #6 national championships – though now I look and several #5 seeds have made the Final Four recently, maybe the trend is reversing).
Mac6uffin - February 22, 2012
Hat tip to Frank Martin...
K-State has responded once again this year and they accomplished a pretty tough thing last night winning in Columbia and sweeping the Tigers. Couldn’t be more thrilled this morning for obvious reasons but also wanted to just say that I’ve got a lot of respect for the way your team responded with their backs against the wall for now the second year in a row. I have to think this puts you in the tourney.
Owen - February 22, 2012
I'd rather the Cats avoid having their backs to the wall in the first place, but I'll take what I can get.
I honestly thought this team had lost their chance at an NCAA berth (ha! got it BC) after blowing the huge lead against UT and losing to KU. I gave the Cats a small chance to win at Baylor and then no chance at Missouri. Last year I thought the season was over after the 2nd loss to Colorado, two days before spanking KU on Valentine’s day. – And now you see why I don’t bet on sports.
I don’t know about the rest of the BOTC community, but I would like another crack at KU with a healthy Rodney and an Angel who doesn’t play like a 5th grader. I’m not making excuses for the loss in Manhattan (no question KU was the better team that night, and the better team on the season), but I think it would be another fun game.
I’m still not entirely sold on this team. The Clemente and Pullen team from two years ago was a better road than home team, and I wonder if that bug might still be around. If so, the ISU game will be a huge challenge.
Sean T - February 22, 2012
We could get that crack at KU again...just keep winning
mjk7166 - February 22, 2012
A rather nice article about how the Cats beat MU. I wouldn't mind seeing KSU vs MU round 3 myself.
http://www.stltoday.com/sports/columns/bryan-burwell/burwell-these-tigers-no-match-for-k-state-again/article_eeba1c72-76ee-52a8-ac9e-d3be314d569a.html
Sean T - February 22, 2012
I like the tone of the article ... that all MU has to do is play better to win.
I think that is what they said after the first game.
Anon_the_younger - February 22, 2012
I liked this quote:
iCatDormRat - February 22, 2012
That aggy article is pure gold
I read this and figure its a quote from some 80 year old man who sits on his front porch and yells at kids to get off his lawn
Then on the next line I find out the guy isn’t much older than I am
powercat62 - February 22, 2012
Those people are genuinely strange. Like bizzaro strange.
Panjandrum - February 22, 2012
You have to admit, they are humorous.
Anon_the_younger - February 22, 2012
Is it permamently in the 1950's in College Station?
Scott McKinney - February 22, 2012
Nah, it's desegregated at least.
Sean T - February 22, 2012
I wonder...
Did a black student attend A&M before a woman?
MeatGeek - February 22, 2012
I'm going to say
woman, before minority. As women had been allowed to attend summer classes since the early 1910’s and had full enrollment in 1963
And here is a history on african-Americans at TAMU
jtarkman - February 22, 2012
I’m also going to bet that they allowed a Latino in before an African American.
Scott McKinney - February 22, 2012
That would also be likely
at least someone of Hispanic descent. There are lots of people in that region that look ethnically white but are Mexicans by birth or heritage. It’s that whole Spanish and French being rulers thing…by definition a Latino is either half Aztec (indian) half European or half Aztec half black.
jtarkman - February 22, 2012
Yes...in Aggieland Superman eats babies.
ALL HAIL AMMOCAT!!!!!
mac attack ict - February 22, 2012
CBS sports updated rpi has us 36.
espn’s bpi had us 25 after the Baylor game and isn’t updated yet. Win out and we finish top 20 bpi and easily top 30 rpi. Very solid
mjk7166 - February 22, 2012
Kenpom has us at 19 after last night's game
I value his rankings quite a bit. The tempo adjusted Offensive and Defensive numbers are particularly insightful.
KState checks in at 12th in the nation in AdjD.
xrayxtals - February 22, 2012
is there any video?
Is there any video of that sweet pass Angel Rodriguez made to Jordan H.?
chuckindallas - February 22, 2012
Front page on ESPN Men's BBall in the Highlight of the Night video
xrayxtals - February 22, 2012
okay, thanks
chuckindallas - February 22, 2012
its Chuck in Dallas
the Commish knows who we are now!!!!!!!!!!!!!
/notsureifweshouldbeworriedornot
//doubtitsactuallythecommish
///stillfunanyways
jtarkman - February 22, 2012
Scary thought (good scary)
JO is the career blocks leader, and is only a Junior. If he can continue to develop into his Senior year, he could easily set an impossibly high record for career blocks. As much as we all dog on JO for being uncoordinated and lacking the ability to consistently use his big hands to grab rebounds and passes, he has managed to use that massive wingspan effectively in one area. Figure out how to rebound effectively and consistently, some NBA team might snatch him up to put in the D-league on reserve.
jtarkman - February 22, 2012
JO's hands are MUCH better now that his frosh year - he has made step changes forward in his game...good for him and Frank.
ALL HAIL AMMOCAT!!!!
mac attack ict - February 22, 2012
ESPN article
http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/id/49515/k-states-martin-pleased-with-teams-resiliency
Sean T - February 22, 2012
gotta love missouri
check out this class act from the broadcast last night
k-stater86 - February 22, 2012
I'm sure his parents have a tear of joy rolling down their cheek as their pride swells...
ALL HAIL AMMOCAT!!!!
mac attack ict - February 22, 2012
Obviously inbred....
AmmoCat - February 22, 2012
Thanks for all the 'Hails' but I am just doing my duty just like all the other vets out there.
If we are going to ‘Hail’ something, let’s just HAIL THE CATS!
AmmoCat - February 22, 2012
Sorry
I can get a bit carried away.
MeatGeek - February 22, 2012
No apologies necessary
It is actually kind of fun. I am just not a limelight kind of guy.
AmmoCat - February 22, 2012
Should I feel bad for laughing at this?
It showed up on my Facebook wall(I have Oklahoma State Athletics liked), but here it is at any rate.
MeatGeek - February 22, 2012
OMG, that is so terribly wrong
and so terribly funny….wow
jtarkman - February 22, 2012
I'd have to think...
Whoever made this seems like they knew exactly what they’re were doing because even OSU fans I know make fun of him for his downs syndrome looks. It’s like the “Chink in the Armor” headline in a way.
MeatGeek - February 22, 2012
Rec'd.
Entirely for reasons of supporting Special Olympics, of course. Yeah, that’s the ticket!
AMS - February 22, 2012
I really, really, really don't want to laugh at that.
But I just can’t help it.
Good thing its Ash Wednesday.
TheBigE - February 22, 2012
i laughed.
mizzutgr - February 22, 2012
Terribly wrong.
But ILMAO before I read the note.
ArkieCat - February 22, 2012
Great Cause - poor, poor execution on that poster.
If I were Page, I’d be a little pissed. All they had to do was swap Page for Pistol Pete and it would have been fine.
I still laughed…
mystman995 - February 23, 2012
Mizzou fan here
Only twice has a team taken it to Missouri, and both times it was KSU.
I hope Mizzou doesn’t see them in the Big 12 Tournament, because whatever it is, KSU has Mizzou’s number. Though if you happen to meet Kansas… go ahead and play like that against them!
Congrats on a great win. No bubble team talk now.
Mac6uffin - February 22, 2012
I promise I am not trolling
What did OSU do to Mizzou?
I mean, what is a Mizzou fan’s interpretation of that game? I don’t really even know what I think happened.
Jeremy Sharp - February 22, 2012
Hung around
got really hot at the end. Mizzou pretty much led the entire night until the last few minutes.
KSU controlled that game last night from about the first TV timeout to the end. When people say Kansas controlled the Mizzou game until the the last two minutes, I shake my head. They led most of the game, but they didn’t control it like KSU did.
Mac6uffin - February 22, 2012
That's fair.
And I agree. In the first game KSU controlled from wire to wire.
You got out to a better start than we did, but once we woke up and took control, it was pretty one sided until about the 6:00 mark in the second.
Totally agree on the KU game.
Jeremy Sharp - February 22, 2012
The other thing
the announcers said last night that KSU rattled Mizzou, and I agree. That was the only time I’ve seen them lose their composure like that. Not even the previous loss did Mizzou look that way.
They were playing so hard and KSU had an answer every time.
Mac6uffin - February 22, 2012
I think careless early fouls helped to hurt that composure
especially that dumb T on English. Its the right call to make, and I’ve seen it happen to us before (Curtis Kelly say HAI), but it shows a lack of composure from the player.
jtarkman - February 22, 2012
hey guys, well played last night.
maybe we’ll see each other in the b12 tourny. good luck.
mizzutgr - February 22, 2012
Thanks. Now beat KU.
Anon_the_younger - February 22, 2012
This^
jtarkman - February 22, 2012
I kinda want KU to somehow still win the Big 12
But Mizzou to sweep them, so KU cannot talk shit to us about how they won this Big 12 title by themselves.
MeatGeek - February 22, 2012
They will still claim a co-championship as a championship
I would just like to see somebody else get it, even if its mizzou.
rich04 - February 22, 2012
I think we need a t-shirt Yeti.
BlackCats - February 22, 2012
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