When a team goes 10, 11, or even 12 deep, the intuitive assumption is that team should be getting better as the game goes along. Yet here we find K-State — with perhaps the most-used bench in the Big 12 — has gotten blown away in the second half in two of its last four games.
So what's the problem? I wish there were an easy answer. I tried desperately to find some sort of statistical correlation to prove this issue didn't suddenly come up out of nowhere, but to no avail.*
*Did you know prior to these last four games K-State was virtually tied with opponent in the first (228-229) and second (252-257) halves? And that the Wildcats either tied or won the second half in their first four Big 12 road games?
We can safely rule out physical fatigue, and I think it's hard to place too much blame on the coaching staff, considering Frank really hasn't made any noticeable changes to his game management lately.
Mental fatigue is a possibility, as maybe this team is feeling the stress and pressure caused by a shrinking margin for error after two losses to a pathetic OU team put the Wildcats into the bubble discussion.
Or perhaps the issue is a lack of leadership, as K-State has had six different leading scorers in its last six games, and no one has reached 20 points since Rodney McGruder dropped 33 against Texas. While on the one hand that shows kind of incredible balance, I'd rather see someone consistently reaching the 15-20 point range.
Instead, McGruder's last four games have been the four lowest-scoring games of his Big 12 season. I have to imagine that's a direct result of his foot injury, but the fact is Kansas State just doesn't really have a player to fill that role of go-to-guy if Rod is incapable of doing it.
It's (NOT) worth noting that if you combine the way K-State played in the first half in Lawrence with the horrible second half play in Ames and Austin, you'd have the perfect recipe for KSU's biggest loss of the season. Stay Positive!
For a quick KU preview, check the jump.

Thanks to Baylor's complete lack of defense, especially on the interior, Jeff Withey managed to transform from slightly better than Eric Chenowith to Cole Aldrich in the course of a week. This could be a big, big problem for Kansas State.
If Thomas Robinson plays like the Big 12 POY he probably is and Withey decides to become more involved (he had a very quiet 8 points and 9 rebounds in Lawrence) then we'll need to see the very best from Jamar Samuels, Thomas Gipson, and Jordan Henriquez/Adrian Diaz to shut him down early and remind Withey who he is.
I'm a little nervous.
I'd like to say offensively K-State should attack the basket hard and try to draw some fouls against a Kansas team that is really not very deep, but yeah, the UT game is still pretty fresh in my mind.
In theory, it's the right thing to do, but in my experience All-Americans and big white guys that play for KU don't get called for a lot of fouls, even in Manhattan.
Kansas State shot 5-20 from beyond the arc in Lawrence (4-14 in the second half) and that's clearly not going to get it done. Will Spradling seems to have found his stroke and if Rod is really limited with his injury, then setting him up for some open looks off screens may be the best way to go.
Defensively, I think the Wildcats just kind of have to hope the Jayhawk guards, especially Elijah Johnson and Travis Releford, don't get hot on the perimeter, because you have to take chances somewhere if you want to stop the big guys. Obviously Connor Teahan only has the three, so that must be taken away from him.
It would be awesome if Will didn't get embarrassed defensively, but it seems like a foregone conclusion that Johnson or maybe Releford will catch him napping on a backdoor cut for an alley-oop at some point. Hopefully he can take enough charges to make up for it.
The real key on the perimeter may be containing Tyshawn Taylor. Whoever is on him (likely Martavious Irving or a steadily improving Angel Rodriguez) must find the balance between putting too much pressure on him and letting him drive by you, or backing off too much to let him get going from the outside or see the floor.
Really, a repeat of last game from Taylor would be fantastic. He had eight turnovers to just three assists while making 5 of 14 shots, but regrettably, he has become a smarter player since then.
Kansas State was blown out in Lawrence, and the most egregious stat from that game was KU's 50 rebounds to KSU's 26. With the energy from the home crowd and desperation K-State should be feeling, there's absolutely no excuse for that to happen again.
My bigger concern is finding good shots, and getting the ball to go through the big orange circle. At times, this offense has been harder to watch and featured more stumbles than a Republican primary debate, and that's just not going to work when you're trying to beat those cocky liberal front-runners from Lawrence.
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Nice write up, Ahearn...
Tell me, how much do you guys want this game? Obviously you always want to beat KU, which I wholeheartedly understand. But given the trajectory of the season and the aide it would provide Missouri in the conference race, how does this compare to most years? Just curious.
hiphopopotamus - February 13, 2012
As a student I've got many reasons for wanting this
Getting into the tournament is one, trying to knock them off the top of the Big XII is another, but I think the biggest reason is because of their fans. I’m so sick of hearing about the record they hold over us in basketball. They’ve only beaten us twice over all men’s and women’s sports over the past calendar year, and both of those are men’s wins in Lawrence. I want to beat them to prove to them that once again they are the Nebraska of basketball… I can’t stand their fans and want to stick it to them again.
tonyg8803 - February 13, 2012 via mobile
I can assure you that if KU wins the league this year, you might want to avoid any conversation with a KU fan
Seven straight league titles is impressive enough (and I don’t remember Nebraska ever doing that) but if we win it an 8th time in what was supposed to be a “down” year? Our obnoxiousness is going to reach a whole ’nother level.
Besides, didn’t KSU kind of bring this on themselves? All we heard about before conference play was how KState was so deep, and KU had no depth, and KU wouldn’t be that good this year (FINALLY!!!!). I mean, some people picked KSU to win in Lawrence or make it close… and that didn’t sit well with us. We feel like we have earned the right to be feared and revered. Otherwise what good was all the conference hardware? Sure didn’t bring us anything in the tournament save one magical run.
Mix that in with Missouri having their best season ever, and KU fans have had to fall back on the history angle. I got tired of hearing about Missouri, the calender year thing (which means nothing to me because I don’t follow sports like volleyball), how horrible our football team is, how Charlie Weis is the worst coach in America, etc, etc. So our defense is going to be the history angle.
And its a two way street. I got sick and tired of hearing about KSU’s 15 in a row in football too. When teams are successful, their fans are going to brag. Those that don’t (the Huskers you mentioned) always come off to me as stuck up, with a greater-than-thou attitude.
Andrew Clark - February 13, 2012
I will admit, I was one that said that KU was not deep, and this would be a good opp for a win in AFH.
You have to admit to yourself, KU is not deep, but has become better as the year has progressed.
How you guys win games with Tyshawn giving the ball up 8, 9, 10 times is beyond me, but if you like him, more power to you. I’ve got to say “Hold on a minute, now” to any of these analysts (esp. Fran Fraschilla) heaping Top-5 PG praise on him, though.
And, I don’t think anyone truly saw the absolute absence of anything resembling a leader on this team, back when these “beat KU at AFH” comments were being made. I sure didn’t. I really figured that Jamar and Rodney would have the capability to put this team on their back. Reality is that Rodney his moments, and Jamar is just not solid as a leader.
Larger sample size means the truth starts to come out, I guess.
Oh, and don’t underestimate the power of a national-level performer, surrounded by role players, regardless of depth. We used that paradigm pretty well last year.
TheBigE - February 13, 2012
and with Beasley
I realize we were actually more successful in the years post-Beasley, but that was a team of a #1 and #1a and everyone else.
Jeremy Sharp - February 13, 2012
Oh I
Andrew Clark - February 13, 2012
Wildcat got your tongue?
Ahearn Alley - February 13, 2012
SNAP!
Do people still say SNAP!?
If not, [insert hip cliche here]!
TheBigE - February 13, 2012
Bazinga!
Jeremy Sharp - February 13, 2012
Kabongo?!?
TheBigE - February 13, 2012
Please say I am not the only one who just recently got turned onto Big Bang Theory!?!?
If you don’t watch this show, you need to start watching immediately.
I started this Thanksgiving while I was visiting my friends in Atlanta. I asked for the DVD box sets for Christmas on every list I handed out, and was not obliged.
Based on the Scholars’ Bowl conversation we had the other day, and just because I know you, I KNOW you would find it highly entertaining.
Jeremy Sharp - February 13, 2012
Too much laugh track.
Sean T - February 13, 2012
Not sure what you mean
I actually like the show because there are at least two or three times each show I literally laugh out loud for a good bit.
I see a lot of myself in the guys (although I’m not nearly as smart as any of them, but I DO seem to be even more inept when it comes to women), I think that’s why I like it.
Jeremy Sharp - February 13, 2012
Sorry guys...I think I just broke the blog.
I actually had more to my response that what appears, and I didn’t intentionally double post. I knew something was amiss when I saw the notification at the bottom of the screen saying a new comment had been posted by Jeremy Sharp.
I was saying that I literally laugh out loud at least two or three times each episode. And While I am not nearly as smart as any of the characters on there (except for Penny), I see a lot of myself in them. I am even more inept with women than they are. I mean, 3 of the 4 actually have a steady girlfriend. I can’t even say that. :)
Jeremy Sharp - February 13, 2012
I never had a steady girlfriend
But I always had a steady stream of girls.
BlackCats - February 13, 2012
Well, I don't have a steady stream of them either. :)
Jeremy Sharp - February 13, 2012
Totally freaking weird.
My double posts disappeared and my original post has now appeared.
Jeremy Sharp - February 13, 2012
The show (at least the first season) uses that old idiot standby, the laughtrack, far too much
If a show has to tell you when to laugh, it isn’t funny, it’s insulting.
Some of the episodes have been good, but the most recent (I don’t know the number) both the wife and I had to shut it off halfway through.
Sean T - February 13, 2012
Well, I would laugh even if there wasn't a laugh track.
I find most of their jokes very funny. I’ve never even noticed the laugh track before. I’ll pay closer attention next time I watch it.
Didn’t say you had to like it. But knowing TheBigE, I have a feeling he would find it entertaining.
Jeremy Sharp - February 13, 2012
No
The only part I like is that their Firefly fans, and that’s IT.
MeatGeek - February 14, 2012
I should have just left that...
and let you guys fill in the rest. Actually… maybe not.
Andrew Clark - February 13, 2012
Woops, hit enter too soon... lets try that again
Oh I’ll admit we have no depth. I’ll admit that I worry constantly about it (yes, I am a dork). I guess it was more of a “in a corner” deal. We were worried about all that, yet still had a “wait, this is KU! YOU SHOULD BE AFRAID!” attitude.
I know I did. My KSU buddies would text me and whatnot after the Davidson game and whatnot. So I had to resort to the “all time wins” and etc arguments.
My original post wasn’t meant to say its right or wrong… more so I just feel like that is where we are coming from this year. I know I got the arrogant “we OWN this league dammit” rants going with people… even if I knew our team wasn’t as good as the past few years. Or is it? Or is it a weak league? I really have no idea anymore… I’m just enjoying the ride (while nervously thinking about the future).
Andrew Clark - February 13, 2012
Overuse of the phrase "whatnot"
Andrew Clark - February 13, 2012
My assessment is that KU is in a second tier of teams that could all vie for a final four, but have some major flaws.
Kentucky is just in a class by themselves. Syracuse, KU, UNC, Ohio State, Michigan State, Mizzou are in that second tier. Honestly, I think the basketball landscape is very flat, very sloppy this year. There is just soooo much mediocrity across the board that truly good teams haven’t and can’t be distinguished.
TheBigE - February 13, 2012
I agree, although I think Syracuse might be a clear two
Rather than a part of the pack. Maybe I’m just buying the hype. I just pray there isn’t a final 4 like last year’s. I couldn’t even watch the title game. Had to turn it off. I also pray Missouri becomes the first one seed to lose in the first round.
Andrew Clark - February 13, 2012
I'm sure you did, and I'm sure you do.
Last year was a firm slap in the face to all those “Playoffs solve everything!” proponents in CFB. You’re not going to convince me that UCONN was the best team in the country, not by a long shot.
Anyways, I think Syracuse is hyped because they’re obviously the best team in the Big East. The problem is the “flat landscape” I alluded to earlier. The Big East just isn’t as good as it has been in the past, and aside from a home win against Florida, they haven’t done anything that Murray State didn’t do…i.e., they haven’t played anyone.
TheBigE - February 13, 2012
I feel like I've seen them play a lot
Which might have something to do with it. But yeah, its probably all the Sportscenter highlites being force fed down my throat. Still, when filling out my bracket, I’ll probably do:
Kansas (HOMER ALERT)
Kentucky
Michigan State (no idea why, other than Izzo)
Butler (TRADITION!) Just kidding… or am I….
I can’t pick against Kentucky. Although with their youth, maybe they have a Kansas 2010 moment? I shouldn’t have brought that up… Their PG play has been suspect as well. And they didn’t handle Vandy’s 3-2 zone well on saturday night.
Andrew Clark - February 13, 2012
They didn't handle it well, and Vandy's a team that gives UK fits at home.
And they still won.
UK isn’t without flaws, but they don’t have any that, in my mind, can truly be exploited to the point of forcing them to lose. Everyone else does.
TheBigE - February 13, 2012
You _always_ want to win games.
Of course, it’s KU in Manhattan. That should be enough.
Any aid this would lend Mizzou be damned.
As of this morning, both SB*Nation’s and ESPN’s Bracketology still have us in the Dance. I agree – very fringe right now. This win would go a long way in pushing us toward the NCAA side of the NCAA/NIT fence.
Further, these guys are just struggling from a confidence standpoint. To come out and get a W against a team that is truly a quality opponent would go a long ways over the next three-game stretch.
Also, a W against KU would do a lot for momentum into next year, honestly. Being able to look back and say that we took care of business against them is always a good building block.
TheBigE - February 13, 2012
Agree
I don’t care if KU and KSU are fighting to not be last place in whatever sport we are competing, I want to beat the Blueducks each and every time. Sure it may help Mizzou, and I would rather not see them win the conference title, but if I had to choose one or the other, I would take the victory over KU, for sure.
Jeremy Sharp - February 13, 2012
Ha ha...
Thanks for the laugh. I’m a KU fan, and that was the first time I heard them called the Blueducks. Props to you on that.
hawkinwichita - February 13, 2012 via mobile
Undimmed.
Because all we have to do is beat both KU and Mizzou and then we will have done nothing to contribute to Missouri winning the title.
/eternaloptimist
ChrisP Wildcat - February 13, 2012
Always cheer for team success over detriment to others
As much as I don’t want Missouri to win the conference on the way out the door, we need this win a lot more than some seem to think.
If we get it, we’ll try to make it up by beating Missouri in Columbia. While we’re at it, we’ll cure cancer and end poverty, too.
TB - February 13, 2012
We already beat mizzou once and lost to ku
So losing to mizzou would actually even out what we’ve done if we beat ku tonight
tonyg8803 - February 13, 2012 via mobile
And world peace!
BlackCats - February 13, 2012
Let's be reasonable
TB - February 13, 2012
Whirled Peas!
Anon_the_younger - February 13, 2012
Agree completely...
Just curious because it seems like most of my KState friends don’t have the same enthusiasm for this game than I’m used to from them.
hiphopopotamus - February 13, 2012
Understandable. I think that's more a result of how the season is going, though.
I’m not optimistic about the result for tonight, and if the weather were just a little worse, I probably wouldn’t be driving out from KC.
TB - February 13, 2012
BLASPHEMY!
If I was two hours from the game tonight, I’d be there come hell or high water.
TheBigE - February 13, 2012
I'd make sure a K-State fan used the tickets, of course
TB - February 13, 2012
No shit
I am 14 hours from manhattan and I wanted to get tickets and drive there.
motown wildcat - February 13, 2012 via Android app
Tonight will be my first ever KSU/KU basketball game in person.
I only attended games as a student when it was my turn to make an appearance as a Big Cat, and that was never at the Sunflower Showdown.
I am super excited about this game. Not necessarily because of how I think we might do tonight, but the OOD has been pretty crazy for some of the games this season, and I know that tonight is going to take it to another level (at least for the first 10 minutes, regardless of how we are doing).
I Imagine it will be as exciting from a crowd perspective as the aTm football game was this year, or the UT game in 2006 (hate to be comparing it to a football game crowd, but as I said, have never really been to a great game environment in the OOD yet).
Jeremy Sharp - February 13, 2012
The same thing happened in football too
From 2004-2009, the football games meant a lot more to KU fans, since our team finally was decent and every game was at least close. It means a lot more when your team is in it. The last two years… well… yeah. Last year I didn’t even care, and I was one of the people on the field in 2004 when we ended the streak. I mean, we sucked. It was another loss. Who cares. Obviously KSU basketball is nowhere near that neighborhood, but its always bigger when your team has bigger aspirations. I think the 2010 games were the biggest for both sides, partly because both were highly ranked and had the league title in their sites as well.
Football is weird though. A team can get hot, win a few games and make a bowl. In basketball, you can play 30 some games and have a decent record and still not get a tourny bid.
Andrew Clark - February 13, 2012
or you can win the league for the eleventy billionth time
get a #1 seed, and blow it in the second round of the tourney.
/sorry I had to
Jeremy Sharp - February 13, 2012
Well, I'm sick to my stomach.
Thanks buddy.
Andrew Clark - February 13, 2012
You knew it was coming at some point, right?
I mean, you ARE on a KSU blog. :)
Nothing against you personally, but much like Texas did on Saturday, I was given an opportunity, and I ran with it.
Jeremy Sharp - February 13, 2012
It was neccessary
Wouldn’t have felt right without it, especially with the game tonight.
Andrew Clark - February 13, 2012
Insert "history" angle being mentioned above here
Andrew Clark - February 13, 2012
Yet another huge lead pissed away will do that to you.
Sean T - February 13, 2012
Have we pissed away leads in the second half of games this year?
certainly.
Do I think Saturday was one of those games? No. Actually, Saturday’s outcome makes me want this game even more.
Jeremy Sharp - February 13, 2012
I agree
No matter what it might do for the Tiggers, I want Kansas State to win. I’m also cheering for KU in Lawrence over MU too, for whatever that’s worth.
Sean T - February 13, 2012
I only cheer FOR KU if it is in the title game for all the marbles.
And the same would be said if any Big 12 team was in the title game.
The KU/MU game is really one of those that i wish could result in a loss for both teams.
Jeremy Sharp - February 13, 2012
A friend of mine said he'd root for the team doctors.
TheBigE - February 13, 2012
Ok, I might do that.
Meaning, I would not be upset if they had to work overtime tonight.
Jeremy Sharp - February 13, 2012
^This.
/iwon’tsayIopenlyprayforinjuries
/butIdo,justtobeclear
TheBigE - February 13, 2012
LMAO!
/Idon’teither
/butattimesIdo
Jeremy Sharp - February 13, 2012
From reading the Slate today,
I guess one KU player has already suffered a pretty nasty injury in the OOD.
/justsayingitcouldhappenagain
Jeremy Sharp - February 13, 2012
Absolutely agree with everyone else
I couldn’t care less what a K-State win would mean for Mizzou or anyone else in the league. KSU is going to be in hot water come Selection Sunday if it doesn’t win one of the next three games, and depending on how much you believe in homecourt advantage, this could be our best opportunity.
Plus, if I’m being completely honest, I kind of like this year’s Missouri team. Probably because they’re fun to watch, I was a small point guard for most of my unimpressive basketball career, and other reasons. With apologies to the few KU fans I call friends (in the blogging world or otherwise), I’ll be cheering for the Tigers to win the conference title. As soon as K-State is officially out of the running, of course.
Ahearn Alley - February 13, 2012
Appreciate the responses...
I suppose I thought if most years are a 10 out of 10, that maybe this year is more like a 9. You have all proven me incorrect.
hiphopopotamus - February 13, 2012
I remain pessimistic about the outcome
of tonight’s game for the wildcats for a number of reasons, but after Saturday – it is officiating that is having more of an impact on my outlook.
Somehow I can’t get the image of Will “fouling” Tyshawn’s elbow in Lawrence out of my head, and that was before the officiating really seemed to turn against us this season.
In short I am hoping for a “fairly” officiated game, and even then I am nervous about our chances tonight.
Daverone - February 13, 2012
The officiating has become so atrocious this season
that I had totally forgotten about that “foul” on Will’s temple to Tyshawn’s elbow.
Yeah, I was pretty upset about it at the time, but that is when it was limited to one or two bad calls in a game, as opposed to an entire half of no-calls.
Jeremy Sharp - February 13, 2012
Sorry
I should add – Will using his temple to foul Tyshawn’s elbow – I think we all may remember that particular call.
Daverone - February 13, 2012
I Hate KU
k-stater86 - February 13, 2012
lol!
well said!
Jeremy Sharp - February 13, 2012
I tried
I was going to try to not just jump straight to hatred with KU because were having a bad year, and they are having a good year…. Yada yada yada. I tried to see it from a basketball fan perspective, not just a k state perspective but alas I cannot. I hate those mythical bird bitches so damn much. I’m even putting a jayhawk inside my nieces training potty. The arrogance that comes from a wal-mart jayhawk is beyond comparison. I hope we win by 20 tonight, and even if we don’t I will still be happy, because I can truly say I am a true wildcat. … So moral of the story is fuck you ku.
motown wildcat - February 13, 2012 via Android app
"walmart jayhawk"
I like it. That is a very appropriate description of the jayhawk fan that is discussed a lot on here. The one who has no connection to the University, but cheers for them because it is convenient because they are a winning team.
Jeremy Sharp - February 13, 2012
I should probably change my note below
to read…
Anyone but KU… I feel that much hatred…
Sorry, no love lost for the Beakers.
BeYard2 - February 13, 2012
At first i thought i should
cheer for ku just so mizzourah wouldn’t take the championship to the SEC, but i revised my thoughts based on my comment above. if MU wins, I’m not going to have to hear about it ever, as opposed to what will happen if KU wins.
I have since adopted the attitude of my boss. I hope KU loses in everything against any and all opponents.
k-stater86 - February 13, 2012
Go State!
If the team plays like they did against MU (entire game) and Texas in the first half, then they can/will win. The flip side is that if they play like they did in Lawrence (entire game) and Texas in the second half, then a loss is more likely.
I have not idea which team will show up tonight. I want the former but fear the latter will happen.
How the results effect the rest of the conference, I could not care less. I want a win this game and every other game for the rest of the year.
Anon_the_younger - February 13, 2012
Predictions?
I’m going 72-67 Cats with JO having 10+ points and 8+ boards.
(takes another hit…)
yeahboozin - February 13, 2012
I have no confidence in this game at all.
Every time I think the team has turned a corner and will play like they are capable of, they don’t.
Anon_the_younger - February 13, 2012
So that means since you have given up hope
they will come out and do something really good to make you feel bad for doubting them. ;)
Jeremy Sharp - February 13, 2012
or cause me to start drinking.
Anon_the_younger - February 13, 2012
yeah man
can I get some of that? Sounds like it’s pretty good stuff. :)
Jeremy Sharp - February 13, 2012
I really hate ku's throwback jerseys
EMAW 4 Ever - February 13, 2012
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