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K-State Slate: 1.23.12

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K-State Basketball

It wasn't pretty, but K-State got a road win at Oklahoma State, holding off a late charge to prevail, 66-58.

Angel Rodriguez started for the second straight game, and tied Rodney McGruder for the team lead with 14 points against the Cowboys.

K-State Women's Basketball

Baylor rolled over K-State, 76-41, in Waco for its 34th straight win at home.

Big 12 Basketball

Mizzou got a huge road win and handed Baylor its second-straight conference loss on Saturday ... KU gutted out a road win over Texas ... Oklahoma stumbled to an overtime loss to Texas A&M in College Station ... Iowa State kept Texas Tech winless in conference play with a 24-point win in Lubbock.

College Football

Joe Paterno died Sunday morning at age 85.

Lawyers expect the West Virginia/Big East litigation will end in settlement. Most litigation does.

It sounds like Oregon coach Chip Kelly is on his way to Tampa to coach the Buccaneers.

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SanFran lost, isn't this what we were hoping for?

Any speculation out there about whether or not Mr. Levetacious is on his way to the Little Apple?

only by us...
As a 49ers fan, I wanted my team to win out

as a K-State Alum/Fan I wanted the Niners to lose so Currie and Snyder could get Leavitt here quickly… I’d like to think Kyle Williams (#10, the kid who f’d up two punt returns) fell on my double edged sword for me.

Aww, too bad about Kelly leaving Oregon for Tampa. He'll be in the NFL, what, 3 years?

I can’t say anything about the Baylor “women’s” basketball team stomping the Cats without making a snide comment so I’ll just move on.

If it wasn’t for Angel’s two straight silly TOs late in the 2nd half, I think that would have been his best overall performance of the season (I’m loving all the rebounds he nabbed). Too bad we can now count on him doing nothing next game, but it was promising to see anyway.

“"We didn’t slip because the players changed,’’ Martin added, "but because I started putting my focus on different things. We’ve gotten back to practicing the things that are important to us and make us who we are, rather than re-creating the wheel.’’” – it’s about time we see some of the K-State defense.

Oh, and Travis Ford is a whiny bitch. “"Teams try to stop Keiton Page and bear hug him and not let him get (the ball) and bump him,’’ Ford said. "I just don’t grasp why he doesn’t get the respect (from officials) he deserves out there on the court, and I’m sick of it,’’ Ford added. "Everybody is just all over him. This kid is giving it everything he has got, and he can’t even walk the next day.’’” – what, calling fouls on Gipson for looking at the tricksy little hobittses isn’t enough for you? Piss off.

Oh good, two teams from the north east playing in the Super Bowl. I’m cheering for the commercials and against both teams. Belichek is a complete schmuck, and nobody likes teams from New York.

Wow! I hadn't read the Travis Ford comments

I can only assume he was on some trippy pain medication when stating those. While that game won’t go down as one of the worst officiated games, the Gipson fouls and a couple of Spradling’s were complete bailouts for OSU. Honestly for the big 12 that was not a horrific ref performance. When Ford watches that tape (assuming without orange colored glasses) he will see that he is a complete idiot for saying that. It just has to be hilarious to all the other teams that get to play them next.

Oh and Ford…if you’d realize that Ewok is just not that good maybe you will find the answer to your question.

And I suppose he thinks that the double fake, jump into a player, three point free throw play is legit.

I know that we’ve had some guys (Pullen) who were very good at it too, but I hate that call. The defensive player is still in control and comes down two feet from the shooter, but he jumps into the defensive player and gets the three free throw call. Bull Puckey!

Yeah, I'd like to see refs get a little more savvy on that call.

If you go straight up for your shot, fine, you got fouled. But if you go out of your way to draw the contact, in such a manner that you’re not using anything resembling proper jump-shooting form, then you’re not getting that call.

I think in other cases

they can call a technical if you obviously flop trying to draw a foul…maybe I’m wrong, but I think I saw/heard that somewhere

You explained it exactlly

If the defender moves into the shooter at all it’s a foul. If he goes straight up and down, it should not be a foul. Unfortunately in fast motion the officials always seem to side with the shooter, which I kind of understand. But you are right it’s BS most of the time.

That sounds like the old baseball "rule"

of “tie goes to the runner”, that actually doesn’t always get called that way (or in the case of “the Perfect game that wasn’t”, it gets called that way when it shouldn’t).

There has never been a rule "tie goes to the runner"

I don’t know who made that up…

Technically true, but it is interperated and called that way so for all intents and purposes it is a rule:

There is no sentence in the baseball rule book that says the tie goes to the runner. However, rule 6.05 states: “A batter is out when after he hits a fair ball, he or first base is tagged before he touches first base.” The key word in the rule is “before.” If the foot or any part of the runner’s body hits the base at the exact same moment as the ball hits the first baseman’s glove — in the umpire’s judgment — the runner will be ruled safe. That’s because the ball did not get to its destination before the runner touched the base.

Problem is

refs always seem to blow the whistle on the reaction, even if they didn’t see the cause. In the Texas game, for example, the ball was coming upcourt without incident when Clint Chapman went flying out of bounds as if he’d taken a cannonball to the chest. The refs called Jordan Henriquez for a foul. Now I ask you, could J-O on his best day score a legitimate takedown on Chapman? I was at the game and saw no replay; it might have been a foul. But the drama is what bought the call. The refs bought it, and they always seem to buy it.

Incidentally, the UT game was the most dreadfully officiated game I’ve seen since I was coaching 1A high school in western Kansas, where the refs change out of their Carharts and workboots before the opening tip.

Espn

Just reported Chip is staying at Oregon.

The article that TB linked says the same thing
It sounds like put this together last night...

And set it to post this morning, because it seems like they updated that update article.

Yeah

and that’s what I meant…I just didnt say enough :-S

That's the problem with setting the Slate up prior to "going to press"

I’ve often wondered how these seem to come out exactly at 7:00…I just thought TB was THAT good. :)

Articles

http://www.kstatesports.com/sports/m-baskbl/recaps/012112aaa.html – recap of the game

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/news?slug=teamreports-2012-ncaab-kab – hey look, the Cats play defense (even if it’s only on one person against UT) and they win! Who would have thought.

I’m trying to find the nice update about Curtis, Jake, and Denis and what they’re doing overseas, but I can’t find it so I’ll just quote it here -

“EURO-CATS DOING JUST FINE
Basketball Wildcats are picking up in Europe right where they left off in their K-State days.

Curtis Kelly was recently named the Eurobasket.com Player of the Week while playing for Hapoel Tel-Aviv in Israel. Kelly is averaging 18.5 points per game on 53 percent shooting from the field.

Playing for Nitra in Slovakia, Denis Clemente is netting 18.7 points per game on a lofty 61 percent shooting from the field, while Jacob Pullen is averaging 15.6 points playing for Angelico Biella in Italy.”

I really enjoy Fiu's writing style, and I think he nailed my feelings on Paterno and his death by broken heart

http://cfn.scout.com/2/1151069.html

Cats #22 in the AP
All silent on the JL front.... I was hoping for a slam dunk
He may just be flying in today

still gotta work out contract details and such…probably gonna be at least Wednesday before we hear yea or nay from him

So when you say he "may just be flying in today," do you KNOW that he's coming here (whether or not for a job)?

Or is that just wishful thinking?

Kind of hard to read between the lines in your post, but I wasn’t sure if you were sure that he is on his way here to interview or not.

Im just saying that on wishful thinking

sorry, didn’t mean to get your hopes up!!

What I meant by that was, at the soonest he would fly in today, if he were to be coming

what if he is on Greyhound. our budget may be tight
all I could find was this

With a Ron Prince mention in the comments

I will know what happens when the official release happens.

Otherwise I have no idea who HCBS is after for DC.

^This^

Everyone not named Snyder or Currie has no freakin clue…and thats the way they want it

Well...and Joan Fredrich

but she aint talkin…

At this point I'm inclined to believe Joe Bob is our next DC.
Wouldn't be shocked.
But why wait then, they could have done that the other day
Because we're going outside first.
My thoughts as well...

due dillignece just to see what is out there, no hurry because your top guy is already here. Processing my thoughts on this.

Apparently the Iowa SB site is rumoring to a JL Iowa DC position
according to footballscoop.com
Kansas State: We hear that Air Force defensive coordinator Matt Wallerstedt will interview for the defensive coordinator position.
Our D was horrible
That wasn't Wally's fault. You can blame that solely on Tibesar and Prince.

Wally has done a very good job as the DC at Air Force stopping good offenses with service academy players. He’d be a good hire.

Not Leavitt or Venables, but I’ve resigned myself to the fact that solid is about as good as we’re going to get when Snyder is doing the hiring.

it would also be a breath of fresh air

knowing that Snyder went out and did his homework on someone outside of his comfort zone. I mean seriously, the reason his coaching tree is so huge, is because after 1 asst got a head coaching job followed by another, he had to find someone from somewhere to fill that position and he continued to knock it out of the park. Whether it works or not, I’m behind it b/c (well ok he was my horse in the 2010 race) it feels like a coaching search ought to. Or is HCBS on BOTC on his blackberry and we don’t know it?

If that was the case (HCBS reading BOTC on his blackberry)

Then Cosh would have been gone last year.

he's backlogged. He's just getting to the JL hyperbole from this time last year
He's got a lot of game threads to read through, I don't envy him.

As funny as they can be, that is a tall task.

Maybe he can outsource those threads to the student assistants. We should send him a memo to avoid the Joe-Pa threads as well.

I would feel very sorry

for anyone who tries to read the JoePa threads now…especially with all that vitriol we directed at each other…….

Yeah

Let’s never repeat that shit. Ever.

Anyone hear about this talk that the Big 12 is poised to poach the ACC?

Conference Realignment 3: Revenge of the Big 12

I also made a FanShot about this if you would rather discuss it over there:
My Fanshot

I have, and I think it's plausible.

I posted this elsewhere, but I’ll repost here.

I think the next ‘round’ of realignment, I think we’re going to see different types of targets starting to pop up. So far, with the exception of A&M (and stupid Big East expansion), all of the lateral BCS moves have been schools that are the only BCS program in their state (Colorado, Nebraska, Missouri, West Virginia). There are limited political entanglements, maximization of TV audience, etc.

The next set of schools in this evolutionary process are those that share states with other BCS conference teams, but exist in a conference that will make far less in television revenue, or have a perception of playing in a much inferior conference. Georgia Tech, Clemson, FSU, and Miami are all prime targets for this right now. Every single one of these teams are playing second fiddle to their SEC conference counterparts that they share a state with in terms of television exposure, revenue, etc. Unless they make some sort of move, over time, they will be seen as the ‘little brothers’ because of how progressive the SEC is in marketing and promoting football, while the ACC sits on it’s heels in Tobacco Road wondering if they can get more basketball games scheduled in MSG.

Because the Big Ten and Pac-12 have allied realizing that they’ve already found ways to maximize their revenue and exposure through fantastic TV contracts and their networks, they’re most likely done for quite some time. The symmetry in how they’ve now aligned themselves means that they’re most likely going to dig in and maximize that arrangement. This means that there are three conferences out there who are viable, and two of them take football seriously. If you’re an ACC school that cares more about football than basketball, I could see the Big 12 as a very attractive option, especially if we are able to manipulate those TV contracts by getting into bed with NBC.

I think, if we were able to take the four ACC teams I mentioned above, it would cause the ACC to reach out to take a few teams from the Big East and kill that conference once and for all. Then, if Notre Dame wanted to join a party, the scramble will be on. If we have an arrangement with NBC, that probably wouldn’t hurt.

I think the problem with the ACC teams is the ones who care about academics. I believe that is what was keeping FSU from the SEC and what in turn kept WVU out.
It sure makes a lot of sense

The ACC made a mistake in leaning towards basketball when if poached the big east. Surprisingly to myself, I never thought about this. Good call Pan.

I'll need to visualize the map and do some thinking, but that would be a tremendous development.

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